Tuesday, April 1, 2008

F2C, part 6

Clay Shirky, author Here Comes Everybody

"Every inefficiency you can find is someone's top line profit."

The book's thesis is "Group action just got a lot easier."

"Bill Watson was pushing flash mobs as a critique of hipster culture." Now Clay's talking about how flash mobs were incorporated into political protest in Belarus, and making a great point that in relatively free societies, new coordinating technologies get used frivolously but can be "profoundly political" in another environment.

"William James maintained that thinking is for doing... increasingly, publishing is for acting... it creates the possibility of a platform for coordination."

"Nothing says 'dictatorship' more than pictures of police arresting people for eating ice cream."


"The principle danger to this freedom to act is principally a regulatory one... Law isn't internal to itself... [it] grows up with the structure of the society... Up until recently, all speech regulation in this country [has been] an iterated game of Prisoner's Dilemma... The one thing I tell [my students] is... prior to the mid-90s, if you had something to say in public, you couldn't. You had to get permission to say something in public..." The domain name system is the best place for centralization and professional management of censorship on the Net (wikilinks, ratemycop, etc)."

Q&A

Micah Sifry: Can you talk about future shock and backlash?

A: The really interesting example is where 40,000 LA students walked out to protest an immigration bill, organized using SMS, etc. "The thing that worries me most... is that punishments might become extreme.." to raise the threat level.